Craps Hop Bet

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The following is a glossary of terms used in the dice game craps. Besides the terms listed here, there are many common and uncommon craps slang terms.[1][2][3]

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Craps Hop Bet Keys

The layout contains all the 'hop bets'. Our other 14' table does not have hop bets. Thus, in all the years I have been doing this, I've never had a player ask for a hop bet. My fear is two-fold: 1. While I love one-roll bets, it can sting when the number hits, even with the payoffs shaved. Lots of hits could make for a bad night. A hop bet is a little understood one roll, verbal bet you can make on any combination of numbers. For example, if you have an intuitive notion that the combination 4&1 will appear on the very next.

A[edit]

ace deuce
A roll of 3

B[edit]

Big Red
The number 7 or a bet for any 7 to appear
bones
A slang term for the dice
box numbers
The place numbers (4,5,6,8,9,10)
boxcars
A roll of or bet on 12

C[edit]

Craps Hop Bet Strategy

center field
Nine, often called Center Field Nine
change only
when a player buys into a game specifically with cash, the 'only' means no bets are being placed at the time of the buy in. Can also be used when a player colours in. (Dealers will say this out loud so that a player can't take a shot and say he wanted a bet on X.)
Cheque change
Breaking down a chip into smaller denomination chips.
colour up
The process of changing denominations of chips to larger denominations
cold dice
also known as a cold table; an expression used when players are not hitting the established point and sevening out
come out
1. The initial roll of the shooter
2. To roll the dice when no point has been established[4]
crap out
To roll a 2, 3, or 12 on the come out roll. A player betting on the Pass line or Come loses on crap out, but the roll does not lose when a point is established. Don't Pass and Don't Come wins if a 2 or 3 craps is rolled on come out, but ties (pushes) if a 12 is rolled on come out. The shooter may continue rolling after crapping out.
craps
the numbers 2, 3, and/or 12

D[edit]

double pitch
In dice control, when the dice stay on axis which rarely occurs (less than 5% of the rolls), but one turns two faces more than the other. If players set the dice with the same face, such as a hard ways or 3V set, the roll may likely result in a seven.
down
To remove or reduce a bet, players often say 'take it down'

E[edit]

easy way
Rolling an even number with any combination other than doubles. Applies to 4, 6, 8, and 10 only.
even money
Any bet that pays out at 1:1.

F[edit]

fever five
A roll of 5, also called five fever
free odds
Simply known as odds, is the odds which can be taken or laid behind the Pass/Come or Don't Pass/Don't Come. These are paid at true odds.
flea
A player who bets at or near table minimum, normally for extended periods of time.

G[edit]

garden
Slang for the field bet
George
A good tipper

H[edit]

hard way
Rolling a 4, 6, 8, 10 with a pair of the same number
hi-lo
a single roll bet for 2 or 12
hi-lo-yo
a single roll bet for 2, 11, or 12
high
A bet on or roll of 12, also see boxcars
hop
A single roll bet for a specific combination of dice to come out. Pays 15:1 for easy ways and 30:1 for hard ways
horn
A divided bet on the 2, 3, 11, 12
horn high
A horn bet with addition units going to a specific number. For example 'horn high ace deuce' would generally mean a 5 unit bet with 2 units going on the 3.
hot dice
also known as a hot table; an expression used when players are hitting the established points or rolling for long durations without seven outs

Hop Bet Odds

I[edit]

inside numbers
betting on the 5, 6, 8, 9

L[edit]

lay
To bet on a seven to come before a specific point number. Lays are paid at true odds with commission taken.
lay odds
To give odds behind a Don't Pass or Don't Come. Betting against the shooter
Little Joe
Point 4
low
a single roll bet for a 2

M[edit]

mechanic
A shooter who allegedly implements dice control

N[edit]

natural
Rolling a 7 or 11 on the come out roll
Nina
Rolling or betting on a 9

O[edit]

Off
1. The come out roll; when no point has been established
2. To have a bet on the table but not in play. The bet can not be won from or lost when it is Off.
On
1. When a point has been established
2. A bet that is in play (working).
outside numbers
betting on the 4, 5, 9, 10

P[edit]

parley
To parley a bet is to take all the winnings from the previous bet (or up to maximum allowed for bet if winnings exceed maximum) and add it to the next bet.
press
To double a bet, players generally say 'press it' when doubling a bet, players can also press an additional one or more units and can increase the bet less than the original bet by saying 'press X units'
push
a tie

S[edit]

same bet
To keep the previous winning bet as is. If a player says same bet it does not mean to double the bet, that is referred to as 'pressing it'
seven out
A roll of 7 when the point is On. All bets on Pass, Pass Odds, Come, Come Odds, Place bets, Buy bets, hard ways and any single roll bets not for a seven loses. All bets on Don't Pass, Don't Pass Odds, Don't Come, Don't Come Odds, Lay bets and any single roll bets for a seven wins.
snake eyes
A roll of 2
stroker
A player who makes bets overly complicated and/or gives dealers unnecessary additional work

T[edit]

take odds
To bet odds behind a Pass or Come. Betting with the shooter[5]
take down
See down
true odds
The real odds for payout where house edge is 0%

W[edit]

working
A bet which is in play and can be won or lost.
whirl
A five-unit bet that is a combination of a horn and any-seven bet, with the idea that if a seven is rolled the bet is a push, because the money won on the seven is lost on the horn portions of the bet. The combine odds are 26:5 on the 2, 12, 11:5 on the 3, 11, and a push on the 7.
world
See whirl
wrong way bettor
When a person is betting against the shooter on the Don't Pass Line.

Y[edit]

yo
A roll or bet on 11 (6-5, 5-6), short for Yo-leven

References[edit]

  1. ^'Craps Lingo'. readybetgo.com. Retrieved 2016-03-03.
  2. ^'Craps Etiquette and Lingo Casino Gambling Game Rules and Strategy Guide'. VegasTripping.com. Retrieved 2016-03-03.
  3. ^Jack Botermans (2008). The Book of Games: Strategy, Tactics & History. Sterling. pp. 545–. ISBN978-1-4027-4221-7.
  4. ^Craps A Smart Shooters Guide. Cardoza Publishing. pp. 24–. ISBN978-1-58042-576-6.
  5. ^R. D. Ellison (2001). Gamble to Win: Craps. Lyle Stuart, Kensington Publishing Corporation. pp. 42–. ISBN978-0-8184-0621-8.
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TerribleTom
Our resident Genious posted something a while back about a plan for winning big by rolling a seven 1:5 rolls. He was looking for suggestions and I offered the suggestion of playing all three hop bets (6-1, 5-2, 4-3). With a $10 bet, that's $30/roll and if you hit a seven within five rolls ($150 total bet) you win $150 + your original $10. If you could manage a higher rate of sevens, well.
My basic play at the craps table is to play table minimum with 3/4/3 odds. At a $5 table, I'll lay DP odds of $18 on the 6 & 8, $30 (max odds) on 4/5/9/10. It's not a spectacularly busy play - I can sometimes sit there for more than a few rolls while a point resolves itself - but it works for me. Like any other plan for the craps table, it's a proven loser. I still have a good time and win a bit once in a while.
I'm considering combining the two as a sort of doey/don't strategy - bet a minimum bet on the hop-sevens but only on the come-out roll.
I've never placed a hop bet in my life. At a $5 table, can you place a $1 hop bet with a $5 pass/don't bet, or does each hop bet need to be $5?
MathExtremist
Every table I've ever played (granted, up to only $25 minimums) the hop bets were $1. I'd assume there's a point where that changes, but I don't play many hop bets and I don't play bigger tables. For any dice dealers: what's the hop minimum on a $100 or $500 table?
Edit: I suppose I've played at tables where the minimum was actually lower than $1, e.g. the quarters table at Binions, but no, the line bet limit is not the same as the hop bet limit.
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TerribleTom
Good to know. Thanks.
I haven't been able to find any Craps software that has all of the hop bets available.
Any suggestions there?
I'll work on my own Excel simulator some more and play with $1 bets on the hop-sevens.
AcesAndEights

Every table I've ever played (granted, up to only $25 minimums) the hop bets were $1. I'd assume there's a point where that changes, but I don't play many hop bets and I don't play bigger tables. For any dice dealers: what's the hop minimum on a $100 or $500 table?
Edit: I suppose I've played at tables where the minimum was actually lower than $1, e.g. the quarters table at Binions, but no, the line bet limit is not the same as the hop bet limit.


Yeah, I've had the same experiences. While at a $25 table once, I think I actually asked a dealer if at the $100 minimum table, the minimum on the center bets went up to $5. I believe he said no, even at the $100 min. table, you could book any inside prop bet (including hops) for just $1.
So if that recollection and dealer are both correct, it might go up at a $500 or $1000 table, but not a $100.
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DJTeddyBear
Generally, table games with high house edge side bets allow the side bets to be placed at a price lower than the table minimum.
On a craps table, all the stuff in the middle (which I have on more than one occasion heard a stickman refer to as 'The junk in the middle') can be considered side bets.
Yeah, you can make Hop bets (and everything else in the middle) for less than the table minimum.
Note: As I've mentioned more than once, (and have been quotes as saying): Whenever a casino allows you to make a bet for less than the table minimum, ask yourself 'Why?'
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TerribleTom

No deposit slots lv. https://bearfree.mystrikingly.com/blog/what-is-cashback-bonus. Harrahs casino louisiana. Generally, table games with high house edge side bets allow the side bets to be placed at a price lower than the table minimum.
On a craps table, all the stuff in the middle (which I have on more than one occasion heard a stickman refer to as 'The junk in the middle') can be considered side bets.
Yeah, you can make Hop bets (and everything else in the middle) for less than the table minimum.
Note: As I've mentioned more than once, (and have been quotes as saying): Whenever a casino allows you to make a bet for less than the table minimum, ask yourself 'Why?'


Oh, there's no doubt it's a bad bet on its own. As a hedge vs. a DP wager, though.
On a $5 table:
On the come out roll, bet $5 DP + $3 on the hop-sevens (maybe throw a fourth $1 at the hop 11?).
Point established? Lost $3 (maybe 4), make odds wager (even money bet).
7(11) rolled? Win $15 + original bet for a gain of $7 $6 if you played the eleven, too).
2 or 3 win you $1 or $2(lose hops, win on the DP), 12 pushes on the DP so you'd lose $3-4 on the hops.
I think I'll have to simulate this in Excel, as WinCraps does not seem to support hops bets.
AlanMendelson
there used to be a time (about ten years ago) when Caesars had $25 tables and the MINIMUM bet for middle of the table was $5, including hop bets. They would not book $1 bets with the exception of a $5 horn-high-something.
That is no longer the practice. Even at $25 tables $1 bets are okay for middle of the table and hop bets.
wudged
My experience has been that at $5, $10, or $15 tables, they will allow $1 prop bets, as long as you have a table minimum non-prop bet elsewhere. If you have no non-prop bets, then either you may not make a prop bet at all, or the prop bet must be table minimum.
For $25 tables, each prop bet follows the same rules as above, but must be a $5 minimum. I haven't played higher denominations, but I would guess at a $100 minimum the prop would go up to $25.
As AlanMendelson pointed out, Caesar's is apparently allowing $1 props on $25 tables, so I guess YMMV. I know Vegas properties are for the most part a lot more relaxed on a lot of rules than where I generally play. For example, most places I've played will not allow a $10 place 6/8, while Vegas just doesn't seem to care.
Also, in reference to Genious's proposition, depending on the distribution of the rest of the rolls in his supposed 5:1 sevens ratio, it would probably be best to stick with lay bets (whichever one would give the best HE after factoring in the new distributions) as they would have much less volatility than hopping the 7s and also have a much lower HE to have to overcome.

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DJTeddyBear

Oh, there's no doubt it's a bad bet on its own. As a hedge vs. a DP wager, though.

Hedge?
I'll just refer you to the Wizard's 'The Ten Commandments of Gambling'
Quote: Commandment Seven

Thou shalt not hedge thy bets.
Hedge bets usually carry a high house edge. Hallmark casino com. For example, never take insurance in blackjack and never bet the any craps or any seven in craps. Exceptions can be made for insuring life changing amounts of money.


My experience has been that at $5, $10, or $15 tables, they will allow $1 prop bets, as long as you have a table minimum non-prop bet elsewhere. If you have no non-prop bets, then either you may not make a prop bet at all, or the prop bet must be table minimum.

Good point.
Of course, they'll often let you get away with it with the expectation that you'll be betting after a point is established, etc.
Also, another notable exception, they'll always let you put $1 on the FireBet, with no other bet. But that too is with the expectation that you'll start betting after a point is established.
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Also, another notable exception, they'll always let you put $1 on the FireBet, with no other bet. But that too is with the expectation that you'll start betting after a point is established. Play online pokies. Kudos casino no deposit bonus 2017.


Just over a week ago, I was in Tunica, MS. Dealers at the Harrah's there (and maybe some of the other casinos I visited) would not allow Fire bets to be placed at all unless the player had a line bet down at the same time. Of course, once the fire bet is in play, I don't suppose they could require you to keep betting on future come out rolls.
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